Herb ([info]hardyharhar) wrote,
@ 2006-06-10 14:44:00
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The only good Injun...
I’m going to start off this entry with a disclaimer, or an excuse. Or, rather, make that a disclaimer AND an excuse. You can decide which is which.

First of all, I read an article some 10-15 years ago, I think it was in the New Yorker. Maybe it was Amitav Ghosh’s article about the anti-Sikh riots that followed the assassination of Indira Ghandi. Or maybe it was later, about hindu/muslim riots following the destruction of the Babri Masjid, I don’t recall. And I’m too wrapped up in writing this entry, now, to search for the proper reference. In any case, anybody who has spent any amount of time with me has heard me make reference to it a million times, because it had a lasting impact on my analysis of race and ethnicity.

This article I read cites a theory by some social scientist who asserted that groups of people that share many characteristics will hate each other much more intensely than a third party from a “totally unrelated” race/ethnicity. Think, for example, of Serbs and Croats, Jews and Arabs, Indian Hindus and Indian Muslims, Hutus and Tutsis, Japanese and Chinese. The violence that these groups inflict on each other is so much more intense, macabre, and personal than in wars between, say, the US and the Phillipines.

Maybe this is not the case, indeed, or maybe there are reasons like centuries of conflict—the burden of history—but the reason given in this mystery article is that groups that are “similar” to one another HAVE TO espouse a hatred of one another in order to ASSERT their own distinct identity. See, to me, a Jew and an Arab looks the same. I might confuse the two. And you—you can’t tell the difference between an Indian and a Pakastani when you look at them. So, in order to not lose their unique cultural identity, they have to say, “Me? I’m not Pakistani. Don’t call me Pakistani. I HATE Pakistanis…” etc.

That’s one point before I start.

The other thing is that I’m very self-conscious about writing narcissistic, navel-gazing blogs that mean nothing to you, my readers, so I have decided to write unflattering things about myself.

Well, I recently got my course reader in the mail for the first class that I’ll be taking at USF. The class is on first-person, autobiographical writing, and I’ve been looking forward to starting the reading ever since I saw Sherman Alexie’s “The Unauthorized Autobiography of Me” on it.
So I read the essay and it talked about being Indian (Native American), as Alexie is wont to do, and it got me thinking about my own identity and stuff and about my first writing assignment, which I suppose this blog may turn into…and then I found myself waiting in line at Amy’s Ice Cream behind a big group of South Asians.

So there I am, standing in line while Chickpea goes to the bathroom thinking, “I hope these ice-cream scoopers know that I’m not one of THEM, these suburban, cookie-cutter people.”

And then I look over and make eye-contact with the guy in the group who is about my age, though in much better shape, and I think “I could take this little Guju punk. Who does he think he is, looking at me like that?”

And then the cute girl all decked out in the latest Banana Republic gear walks past me and I struggle not to check her out because I can’t give her the satisfaction of knowing that I’m checking her out.

And Chickpea has STILL not returned from the bathroom to literally serve as a buffer in the queue between us (Sorry, Chickpea, I did indeed use you as my token talis[wo]man) to mark me as being separate from them, and I think, “Maybe, if I stick close to them, the ice cream people will think I really am a part of their group and will ring me up with the rest and I’ll get free ice cream…”

And then she returns. And we order our ice cream. And the big group of Desis leaves. And the ice gream guy rings us up, and just to make sure that he knows that I’m “cool,” I ask him about Rachel, the girl who usually works there whom I have done political work with.

What a bastard I am! Why do I care what the ice cream scoopers think about my ethnic/racial/religious identity? Consciously, I don’t. And maybe that’s not even it. I mean, I have desi friends who I am happy to hang out with. I think it has more to do with my judging them as being “suburban middle-class” and not wanting to be associated with that. And because we look similar, I expect that it’s easier for me to get lumped together with them than if they were suburban middle class white folk or latin folk or Vietnamese folk or black folk.

So today, as I was mulling this over, I realized that I wouldn’t have this problem if I’d just wear a turban—but then people would associate me with those SIKHS, and who wants THAT?!?



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desi hating
(Anonymous)
2006-06-10 11:02 pm UTC (link)
when i was at the karsh kale thingie at 'turntablas on the bayou,' a friend who was a newbie to the event turned to me and said, amid the din of other conversations, so do you like the party? in other words, did i enjoy my time at such 'turntabla'esque parties? i said, yeah, except for all the desis.

but that was different because desis at such parties are annoying, loud, and obnoxious. i remember when desi parties shared one characteristic - they all ended in fights. i'm not sure what the deal is now, but i lived in georgia during high school and it was the same situation there and living here and there had led me to the following conclusion: a desi party just ain't a desi party unless there's a fight.

so perhaps you are justified in not wanting to be associated with desis. i do my fair share, and i live in suburbia!

vivek.
vivekmittal.com (http://vivekmittal.com)

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Re: desi hating
[info]hardyharhar
2006-06-11 01:54 pm UTC (link)
Haha! Yeah, it's the same reason you don't want to be associated with frat boys, except, just by virtue of appearance, you probably are NOT going to be associated with frat boys.

I recently went to one of those parties at the Social and I nearly drowned in a sea of cologne. It was obnoxiously noxious. Like a roxshus.

I don't know if I'm justified or not. Some of it was definitely taught. Some of it comes from past experience. (For example, I was accepted by my multi-ethnic peers at school much better than I was by the other Sikh kids at the gurudwara. I don't want to sound like I sitll harbor resentment over that, but those experiences were formative of my identity.)

Nonetheless, it was not nice of me to judge "those people." Who knows, maybe they're school teachers or cancer researchers...and that doesn't even matter because everybody deserves respect. And hell, I come from the suburbs myself.

But everybody does this to some extent. It's the same reason why some kids wear ripped clothes and dress like punk rockers--because they don't want to be associated with their bourgoise (sp?) upbringing, or why people wear business suits and on and on and on. People sport their colors to proclaim their identity.

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Re: desi hating
[info]hardyharhar
2006-06-11 06:36 pm UTC (link)
It's also the same reason we stick KPFT stickers on our SUVs in the suburbs--so that we know that we are not alone, and that we're not like those other SUV drivers.

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Re: desi hating
[info]hardyharhar
2006-06-11 08:57 pm UTC (link)
And what's this whole "desi" thing, anyway? "India" itself is a post-colonial fabrication. I mean, I know for a fact that most Punjabis don't know and don't care about Orissans or Tamils or Assamese or Marathis, and most likely, vice versa. This whole "Indian" identity is really a stretch for a lot of people.

And most of those conflicts that I spoke of in my initial entry are post-colonial conflicts...

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Re: desi hating
[info]hardyharhar
2006-06-12 05:21 pm UTC (link)
And Americans that wear Canadian flags on their backpacks when they travel. Because they don't want to be associated with the loudmouth, obnoxious, fanny-pack wearing stubborn American tourists...

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but...
(Anonymous)
2006-06-14 09:33 pm UTC (link)
i thought you were black?

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Re: desi hating
(Anonymous)
2006-06-15 03:29 pm UTC (link)
i didn't know Americans wear Canadian flags on their bags when they travel! That's a great idea.

Its not good in general to judge, or want to not be identified as part of a group you know you're a part of. But its a hard thing to do if you're surrounded by cologne-wearing roxshuses.

And yeah, 'desi' is a construct. It doesn't necessarily indicate affinity for other similarly grouped 'desis' but it simply indicates 'original' place of origin and, this might be a stretch, indicates similar interests. of course, when you start talking about Indian vs. Pakistani, Punjabi vs. South, class and color, things go haywire.

vivek.
vivekmittal.com

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Re: desi hating
(Anonymous)
2006-06-15 05:00 pm UTC (link)
Harbeer, I used to have very similar experiences to what you had in the ice cream store. Even when I'm surrounded by cologne and suburban bullshit, I am comforted by being with people from the homeland. Not when they're in groups of 2 or 3 and cute as hell and dumb as hell, but I tend to feel good when I see brown people.

That's because I was deprived of them for two years at Sarah Lawrence!

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